Minutes of the Meeting at Swale BC 25 March 2011

28/04/2011 / 1022

Andy punctuated his presentation with stills and videos of the race and events on the yacht.  He started the presentation by posing the question "What makes a good manager?"  In an attempt to answer this question he compared the approach of the two skippers he served under during the race.  As an introduction he explained the race.  It is the old yacht race open to amateurs in 68 foot stripped down racing yachts.  The crew had between them little or no experience, therefore the role of the skipper was paramount.  The race covers 35,000 miles, visiting 14 ports over an 11 month period.

Andy gave his reasons for entering the race - a career move; a personal challenge; his interest in leadership; for are charitable cause the Rainbow Trust; and, to learn new skills.

The two skippers took vastly different approaches to managing the crew.  The first took a military style which involved little consultation with the crew; win focused; clearly defined roles for the crew;  no talking on board; no teas or other drinks on board; being off watch was a priviledge and not a right.  The second was a more inclusive manager; the crew shared roles; he consulted with the crew; he treated the experience as a sailing school, teaching the crew different roles; skipper takes a back seat.

There were seven legs to the race and the team won the first leg which gave them all a boost.  The second leg was more of a challenge as the conditions where much harder and there had been crew changes.  The third leg things began to change they were still in the lead but the attitude was changing there was some resentment towards the skipper and his method of managing the crew, also the yacht collided with one of the other competitors.  The fourth leg changed things, the skippers changed and his approach was much more relaxed.  During this leg they came across another boat which had foundered and they went to the rescue, however, there was a dispute on how to handle the matter with some of the crew disagreeing with the skipper's decision to hold back until daylight.  It turned out that the skipper was correct.  the fifth leg was the longest from China to California with 35 days at sea, they learned more about their new skipper and his approach which was to help those doing poorly to do well, and those doing well to do better.  This was opposed to the previous skipper whose objective was to win.  In leg 6 the boat was dropping down the leaderboard but the crew was finding out that there were more important things than winning.  The crew was beginning to enjoy the experience again.  The seventh and final leg was to Hull and the end of the race.

In conclusion Andy came to teh conclusion that a leader will be more abrupt and a manager will try to teach and ensure that the lesson is learned and can be passed on.  Also that there are other important roles in the team, in particular that of the influencing people.  These are the ones with knowledge and experience but no management responsibility but other members rely on them.  The people to watch are those who feel that they should be in charge but have no people skills.  As Andy said these people are in all teams whether on a yacht or in an office.

Overall lessons

Saw some good leadership modles

Should balance winning with experience

Saw some good analogies with management

Specific Lessons

Putting the theory into practice

Winning isn't everything

Competiveness doesn't make a winner

None of us is as smart as all of us

The only disadvantage of the presentation is that it didn't go on longer, it was fascinating and informative.

 

June Meeting - 5th June 2014 - Swale House, Sittingbourne

Our next meeting will be a chance to attend a questions and answers session covering the enforcement reforms that came in to effect from April 2014. Chris Rundle of Rundle & Co has very kindly offered to come along and talk to us about this subject.

Tea, coffee and cakes will be available from 1:30pm for a 2pm start.


IRRV South Eastern Association Summer Dinner

We are pleased to announce that our Summer Dinner will take place on Friday 25 July 2014. This year the event will be held at The Minnis in Birchington. The South Eastern Association are extremely grateful to Chris Rundle, of Rundle and Co Limited for agreeing to sponsor this event again. Further details will be sent shortly.

Spring Meeting - 24th April 2014 - Swale House, Sittingbourne

Our first meeting for 2014/15 will take place at Swale Borough Council (Swale House, Sittingbourne) and will be an opportunity to hear from Alan Sullivan, management consultant with the DWP’s Housing Benefit Delivery Division. The subjects will be ‘overpayments moving forward to Universal Credit’ and ‘the merits of risk based verification with e-claim forms'.


Annual General Meeting - Thursday 20th February 2014

The South Eastern Association Annual General Meeting will take place on Thursday 20th February 2014 at Swale Borough Council (Sittingbourne Offices) at 2.30pm.

Welcome to the South Eastern Association

If you have never been to a local meeting, now's the time to support your local association - provide us with your contact details and come along. Our Association meetings are open to everyone, they are good training, good fun and our guest speakers are of the highest quality. Presentations are on the most current, topical issues around Revenues, Benefits and Valuation.

We are always looking for new ideas for meetings, if you have an idea for a meeting for our agenda next year, we would love to hear from you.

We very much look forward to seeing you at our next meeting.

South Eastern Association Executive Team


Do we have your email address?

We would like to be able to contact all our Members electronically to advise them of forthcoming meetings and events.

News

  • June Meeting - 5th June 2014 - Swale House, Sittingbourne

    Our next meeting will be a chance to attend a questions and answers session covering the enforcement reforms that came in to effect from April 2014. Chris Rundle of Rundle & Co has very kindly offered to come along and talk to us about this subject.

    Tea, coffee and cakes will be available from 1:30pm for a 2pm start.

  • IRRV South Eastern Association Summer Dinner
    We are pleased to announce that our Summer Dinner will take place on Friday 25 July 2014. This year the event will be held at The Minnis in Birchington. The South Eastern Association are extremely grateful to Chris Rundle, of Rundle and Co Limited for agreeing to sponsor this event again. Further details will be sent shortly.
  • Spring Meeting - 24th April 2014 - Swale House, Sittingbourne

    Our first meeting for 2014/15 will take place at Swale Borough Council (Swale House, Sittingbourne) and will be an opportunity to hear from Alan Sullivan, management consultant with the DWP’s Housing Benefit Delivery Division. The subjects will be ‘overpayments moving forward to Universal Credit’ and ‘the merits of risk based verification with e-claim forms'.

  • Annual General Meeting - Thursday 20th February 2014
    The South Eastern Association Annual General Meeting will take place on Thursday 20th February 2014 at Swale Borough Council (Sittingbourne Offices) at 2.30pm.
  • Welcome to the South Eastern Association

    If you have never been to a local meeting, now's the time to support your local association - provide us with your contact details and come along. Our Association meetings are open to everyone, they are good training, good fun and our guest speakers are of the highest quality. Presentations are on the most current, topical issues around Revenues, Benefits and Valuation.

    We are always looking for new ideas for meetings, if you have an idea for a meeting for our agenda next year, we would love to hear from you.

    We very much look forward to seeing you at our next meeting.

    South Eastern Association Executive Team

  • Do we have your email address?
    We would like to be able to contact all our Members electronically to advise them of forthcoming meetings and events.